Bubbas’ gun-toatin’ teacher law makes Mississippi look foolish again

February 27, 2013

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Nancy Anderson, MBJ contributing columnist

Nancy Anderson, MBJ contributing columnist

Bubba strikes again!

Our House of Representatives here in Mississippi recently passed a bill allowing ANY school employee to carry a gun on school grounds. From the Lunch Lady to Joe the Janitor, they’ll all be armed. This could be the break the homeschoolers were looking for.

Junior didn’t do his homework? Forget detention. Now the teacher could just shoot him. Some third grader turns his nose up at the cafeteria meat loaf? Bam, take him out. And those kids smoking in the boys’ room? It’ll be showdown at the OK Corral with the janitor. Being sent to the Principal’s office could take on new meaning.

Sound absurd to you? Well, it is. And so is the notion of allowing concealed weapons on school grounds. Representative Bubba (yeah, really, that’s his name) Carpenter is the author of this insanity, but he somehow mustered enough votes among the other Bubbas to get it through. There are no requirements for gun safety training, no limit on who can carry the weapon. They even took out the clause about psychological evaluations. Any crazy Bubba walking the halls with a school ID can pack a weapon.

Do parents really want all those guns floating around their children’s schools? Do principals really want the responsibility of supervising employees loaded for bear? Did any of the Bubbas at the state Capitol ask educators and parents about the wisdom of such a move? Or did they just do what all Bubbas do? Shoot from the hip first. Ask questions later.

Bubba dun done it agin’! Just made us all look like fools in Mississippi.

>> Nancy Lottridge Anderson, Ph.D., CFA, is president of New Perspectives Inc. in Ridgeland — (601) 991-3158. She is also an assistant professor of finance at Mississippi College. Her e-mail address is nanderson@newper.com, and her website is www.newper.com.

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17 Responses to “Bubbas’ gun-toatin’ teacher law makes Mississippi look foolish again”

  1. frank Says:

    you full of BS

  2. Richard Says:

    Okay, this is foolish.
    #1, I’m certain this fellow Carpenter didnt suggest this with forgetting homework or not wanting meatloaf in mind.
    The children of Sandy Hook were not killed because they didn’t want to participate in naptime.
    #2, There are ALREADY guns floating around in schools. Where have you been?
    #3, kids are being homeschooled mainly because of disinterested teachers who whine about not being paid enough.

  3. Boogie Says:

    By all means, ma’am, please enlighten us as to the massive amounts of violence that have taken place as a result of Utah allowing concealed carry holders exercising their right to keep and bear arms in schools. I’m sure the empirical data you provide will be compelling.

    Additionally, ma’am, you promulgate not just a lie but a damn lie concerning the lack of necessity for firearms training for those wishing to carry on school grounds. According to the publicly available version of HB 958, subsection 2 of Section 1, “the employee must be licensed under Section 45-9-101 to carry a concealed weapon and must successfully complete an instructional course in the safe handling and use of firearms offered by an instructor certified by a nationally recognized organization…”

    Correct your fallacious post. You’re embarrassing yourself enough without lying.

  4. Boogie Says:

    Additionally, if a superintendent does not wish to have the responsibility of supervising armed employees, again, according to subsection 2 of Section 1, the supervisor does not have to allow concealed carry among said employees. Sounds like you’re the one shooting from the hip here, Dr. Anderson.

  5. Why? Says:

    This is a joke right?

  6. Jeff Pittman Says:

    This article leaves little doubt that the author has issues and needs help, which is old news.

    Oh by the way, it’s ALREADY legal for ANYONE with the enhanced carry permit, whether school employee or not, to carry on school property, and that happens daily. There’s also an AG opinion agreeing that’s what the law says. This bill really doesn’t do anything but keep a staff member from being fired for doing something that’s already legal.

    To answer your question – I ABSOLUTELY want responsible faculty and staff, as many as possible, to be armed at my kids’ schools. What fool would want his or her children to be totally unprotected?

    At least try to act like you have some smarts.

  7. Justin Gregory Says:

    You ma’am are an idiot. As a parent, I would much rather have a teacher at my child’s school protecting him with a firearm than standing there helplessly while (God forbid) a lunatic shoots a room full of innocent children….and the unarmed teacher. Why are we raising a world full of idiots these days?

  8. Ross Reily Says:

    Are we going to pay teachers more to carry a firearm?
    Do teachers actually want to carry a firearm?
    Are we going to require that they carry firearms?
    Who will pay for those firearms?
    Who will pay for the training for those firearms?

  9. Boogie Says:

    Reily: Go read the bill. HB 958. Not that hard to find. That will answer almost all of your questions.

  10. Justin Gregory Says:

    1) We should pay teachers more anyway and quit dumbing down our public education system.

    2) It would be their choice. I would think that there are a quite a few that would rather be armed than a victim.

    3) See #2.

    4) If they agree to carry at school, odds are that they probably already have one. If not, I’m sure I’m sure some one could think of a way to cover the cost. Hey I know, cut out this free lunch crap and put that money towards firearms and training.

    5) If it came down to it, I’m sure that certified NRA firearms instructors would donate the training to any teacher willing to carry concealed in his/her classroom for the safety of our children.

  11. Boogie Says:

    Larry Correia, a certified firearms instructor in Utah, used to volunteer his time quite often to instruct teachers and administrators as part of the requirements to carry in Utah schools, at least before he went into writing full time. I’m sure some of the instructors in The Hospitality State would be more than willing to do so as well.

  12. Jeff Pittman Says:

    “Toat” – not a word

    “Tote” –
    1: to carry by hand : bear on the person : lug, pack
    2: haul, convey

  13. Jerry Says:

    This article shows that this woman is mentally ill. She definitely has some serious issues that go far beyond Gun Control debates. When you make a statement like this, publicly, it shows that you not only have issues, but a sick mind as well.

    Picking out Educators as child killers “Junior didn’t do his homework? Forget detention. Now the teacher could just shoot him. Some third grader turns his nose up at the cafeteria meat loaf? Bam, take him out. And those kids smoking in the boys’ room? It’ll be showdown at the OK Corral with the janitor. Being sent to the Principal’s office could take on new meaning.”

    This is beyond any reasonable discussion concerning unreasonable gun laws. This woman not only did a major disservice to law abiding, trained firearms owners, many of whom own the very businesses covered by the MBJ, but she has made it seem that we can expect “crazy bubba’s” to start killing children.

    I have to ask you Dr. Anderson. Do you not see the lunacy in this? And I also have to ask, is this the type of person that Mississippi College, one of Mississippi’s oldest Colleges that sent ARMED students to fight in the Civil War wants working for them?

    The sanity and legitimacy of a person with a Doctorate working for a Christian college in a primarily Conservative State that would make comments about Faculty and Students of this nature.

    It goes beyond the pale. If you dont know what that means Dr. Anderson, it means you went beyond the limits of decency. You should be fired.

  14. Skorpion Says:

    This has got to be one of the worst thought out articles I have ever been subjected to reading on this subject. You clearly have not bothered to read, understand, disseminate or educate yourself on the topic. I guess you just had a deadline to get your 300 words in by and choose a current topic in which to quickly jot down your mindless thoughts. And the fact that a so-called editor allow such into a publication doesn’t say much for their education and/or editorial abilities either. This is enough for me to cancel my subscription to the MBJ. And I will make sure to never recommend it to my associates ever again.

    For your general fund of knowledge, to carry a weapon as you describe, a person would have to be a ccw permit holder. That in and of itself would be a “limit” that you say wouldn’t exist. The bill only allows for two school designated officials to carry, that’s another limit. Both would be subjected to training, yet another limit. I could go on and on but with you it would be a waste of my time. It is also something to which a true editor should have checked on before allowing such drivel to be published.

    Or perhaps you hold Mississippi teachers and administrators in such disdain that they would be incapable of being responsible with a gun? Maybe through your business you have a greater insight into the mental capabilities of Mississippi teachers is what you are really saying. If that is the case, present your evidence.

    A professor of mine, once told me, the most dangerous of individuals are the ones that “think” they know it all and stop learning, and spout off as if they are the authoritative figurehead.

    I would swear, after reading this, he was prophetically referring to you ma’am.

  15. Bubba Says:

    Have you even read the bill? I don’t think so.

    You state it allows ANY school employee to carry a gun, when in fact it says “certain” employees.

    You stated They even took out the clause about psychological evaluations.
    The bill says they have to meet the requirements to carry a concealed weapon our existing CWP laws which does bar any one “adjudicated mentally incompetent” from having a permit so they would be barred from carrying in a school.

    You obliviously don’t have a clue what your writing about, are an idiot, or a blatant liar. Take your pick they all fit.

    Oh yeah and my real name is Bubba

  16. Jeff Pittman Says:

    Hoplophobia (HOP-li-fobia), coined by Colonel Jeff Cooper in 1966 is the irrational fear of firearms. Cooper suggested that “the most common manifestation of hoplophobia is the idea that instruments possess a will (sic) of their own, apart from that of their user.” From the Greek hoplon (weapon) plus phobia (exaggerated and irrational fear). An unreasoning, obsessive neurotic fear of weapons as such, usually accompanied by an irrational feeling that weapons possess a will or consciousness for evil, apart from the will of their user. Not equivalent to normal apprehension in the presence of an armed enemy. Hoplon also means instrument, tool or tackle, but it is the root of hoplite (man-at-arms, gendarme) and thus principally signifies “weapon” in English derivations.

  17. Tish County Parent/Teacher Says:

    As stated in the other responses, it is obvious that you did not read the bill. Obviously, you thought you could make fun of a legislator’s nick name. You needed another excuse to write about your gun grabbing motives in a blog that turned out not to be too popular for you. Well, I am a teacher and a parent in Representative Bubba Carpenter’s district. First, I take offense to the lies in your blog. Second, I take offense to the disrespect that you portrayed to teachers in your blog. Each and everyday, the teachers I work with put the needs of our students before our own. We spend money on the child that didn’t have any for snack. We combine our money to help pay for Christmas for a child who’s parent has lost their job and struggling to make ends meet. In the mornings, we meet our students with a smile, whether or not they have their homework. It was very surprising that you would portray the teaching profession as unstable as you did considering you yourself are a teacher. It is ridiculous that you would insinuate a teacher would ever intentionally harm a child. You owe every teacher an apology for implying this in your blog. I am thankful that our district has never been faced with the tragedy that happened in Newton, CT. However, the teachers I work with would lay their own life down to spare the life of a child. Lastly, Representative Bubba Carpenter is a honest, hardworking, Christian man who drafted this legislation to protect the children and teachers in the State of Mississippi. We need a few more “Bubbas” in this world! The reason his nickname is Bubba is because he is one of us and does not feel that he is better than anyone else. I suggest if you chose to write about him again, you should use his real name Representative Lester Carpenter. “Bubba” is reserved for his friends and family.

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